Fisha695 - 01 March 2009 04:47 PM

Cat-Man-Do - 01 March 2009 04:44 PM

Fisha695 - 01 March 2009 01:28 PM

As the tire supplier they have a contract with NASCAR to supply the tires that NASCAR wants, not to supply the tires that they feel are the best for any given style of car or track.

Is there a source for the contract terms, or are you just expressing an opinion?

There are lots of sources for the contract terms, but only certain people are allowed to see them.

What I said is what one of the Goodyear officials told me at Pocono last year. I asked them why don't they bring a different compound tire for some of these races, and his exact words were "We do testing with NASCAR, Drivers, and Tracks to get feedback, but at the end of the day we bring what NASCAR wants us to bring, which isn't always what we want to bring."

Fair enough. Let me add that I've had dealings with a number of engineers over the years, including some of Goodyears. One thing I've noticed is that engineers are among the last people in the world to admit when they are wrong. But in fairness, I think we should assume that this one was being honest and not trying to shift any blame.
(My discussions with Goodyear's engineers ended a few years ago when I told them to load all their engineers on a plane and send them to Japan to learn how to make a particular truck tire that we were using at the time. They don't come visit me anymore. Go figure!)
Actually, your version seems to make as much sense as any.

gofsttrnlft34 - 28 February 2009 10:16 AM

i really think they should try different types of tire manufactures like hoosier,michelin,and so forth and get rid of the darn headache of goodyear aka (badyear). nascar is changing,from sponsors of each series,rules noe it is time for a tire change.

why are you saying this because smoke says it? ok granted goodyear was not up to par with the tires but i mean come on it was a brand new car and they had to fix the tire and so far this year goodyear or as you like to call em badyear did really good thus far, the true test will be the brickyard but as of right now i give them a b+

gofsttrnlft34 - 28 February 2009 10:16 AM

i really think they should try different types of tire manufactures like hoosier,michelin,and so forth and get rid of the darn headache of goodyear aka (badyear). nascar is changing,from sponsors of each series,rules noe it is time for a tire change.

why has no one questioned the fact that the c,o,t piece of junk has 85 more pounds on the right side than the left,alway's blame the tire manufacturer's,blame the designer's of the cot car,and build a straight rail car with 65% left hand chassis weight and all your'e problem's will dissapear.

1974nova - 15 July 2009 09:33 AM

gofsttrnlft34 - 28 February 2009 10:16 AM

i really think they should try different types of tire manufactures like hoosier,michelin,and so forth and get rid of the darn headache of goodyear aka (badyear). nascar is changing,from sponsors of each series,rules noe it is time for a tire change.

why has no one questioned the fact that the c,o,t piece of junk has 85 more pounds on the right side than the left,alway's blame the tire manufacturer's,blame the designer's of the cot car,and build a straight rail car with 65% left hand chassis weight and all your'e problem's will dissapear.

Maybe if the rules didn't allow a 3200lb+ car to ride around without the front suspension, there wouldn't be a tire problem...

speedsense - 17 July 2009 09:05 AM

1974nova - 15 July 2009 09:33 AM

gofsttrnlft34 - 28 February 2009 10:16 AM

i really think they should try different types of tire manufactures like hoosier,michelin,and so forth and get rid of the darn headache of goodyear aka (badyear). nascar is changing,from sponsors of each series,rules noe it is time for a tire change.

why has no one questioned the fact that the c,o,t piece of junk has 85 more pounds on the right side than the left,alway's blame the tire manufacturer's,blame the designer's of the cot car,and build a straight rail car with 65% left hand chassis weight and all your'e problem's will dissapear.

Maybe if the rules didn't allow a 3200lb+ car to ride around without the front suspension, there wouldn't be a tire problem...

so are we going to do something to not allow coil binding as well?

not knowing,the world of super outlaw latemodel's of the michiana region,the straight rail chassis is the choice design,

these super outlaws,are turning average lap's of over 125 mph on 3/8 mile track,when at the same time,nascar has a record of about 185 at the brickyard,i'm in indiana and i laugh at the netcar boy's every year,i really feel for some of the team's,with their hands tied

if youv'e never seen these car's,go to youtube and type in the search engine newparis speedway and get ready for some real circle track racing,or you can go to http://www.newparis speedway.com check these guy's out for your'e self,enjoy

stowaway - 17 July 2009 09:49 AM

speedsense - 17 July 2009 09:05 AM

1974nova - 15 July 2009 09:33 AM

gofsttrnlft34 - 28 February 2009 10:16 AM

i really think they should try different types of tire manufactures like hoosier,michelin,and so forth and get rid of the darn headache of goodyear aka (badyear). nascar is changing,from sponsors of each series,rules noe it is time for a tire change.

why has no one questioned the fact that the c,o,t piece of junk has 85 more pounds on the right side than the left,alway's blame the tire manufacturer's,blame the designer's of the cot car,and build a straight rail car with 65% left hand chassis weight and all your'e problem's will dissapear.

Maybe if the rules didn't allow a 3200lb+ car to ride around without the front suspension, there wouldn't be a tire problem...

so are we going to do something to not allow coil binding as well?

Coil bind is running without suspension...

No, coil binding is turning your tires into the suspension and your car into a kart